1 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:12,760 Hello there. 2 00:00:13,380 --> 00:00:14,400 I'm Nathan. 3 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:17,780 Yes. I have a speech and ending. 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,400 Once you pop down next to your brother right there. 5 00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:24,680 That's the bling, right? 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Right. 7 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:28,400 My name is Dr. 8 00:00:28,620 --> 00:00:29,620 Barber. 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:36,880 I've been doing family medicine therapy for about three weeks 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,320 now. Do you guys mind if I turn on the camera? 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,980 What's the camera for? 12 00:00:43,380 --> 00:00:47,840 Oh, it's just, you know, that's how I keep my records. It's like a note 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,640 system. It's private. 14 00:00:49,900 --> 00:00:54,840 Just think of it as like an electronic notepad. 15 00:00:56,300 --> 00:00:57,540 Okay. Yeah. 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,460 So let's see. 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,780 I got a call from your parents about setting up this appointment. 18 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:07,240 Thank you both for coming. 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,440 Amanda. 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,200 Yeah, do you want to tell me a little bit about yourself? 21 00:01:12,540 --> 00:01:15,160 Maybe, Nathan, we start with you. 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,600 I'm just here to support her. 23 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:21,700 That's nice. 24 00:01:21,860 --> 00:01:26,400 Cool. Do you want to tell me anything else? Do you work out? Do you play 25 00:01:27,060 --> 00:01:28,880 Is there a TV show you really like? 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:36,420 I work out a little bit, but I'm just here to do things. I just make sure she 27 00:01:36,420 --> 00:01:37,420 feels comfortable. 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,640 Okay. 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,420 Got to watch out for my little sister. 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,340 Hi, I'm Kenzie. Do you want to tell me a little bit about yourself? 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,400 Introduce yourself to me. 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,180 I'm Kenzie, and this is my first therapy session. 33 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:57,500 My zodiac is a Cancer. 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,880 Okay. 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:05,840 I really enjoy reading novels, and I love 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,060 horseback riding. 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,220 And going hiking is really fun, too. 38 00:02:13,740 --> 00:02:20,480 Yeah, I don't really know what to say. That's great. That's 39 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,260 wonderful. It's nice to meet both of you. 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:30,740 And so, yeah, obviously I am a family therapist. So 41 00:02:30,740 --> 00:02:32,960 what would you say? 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,900 the reason of your visit today nothing you said that you were here to be 43 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:45,080 supportive of kenzie which is so beautiful but um if you had to put into 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:51,100 why kenzie's here and why you're needing to support her what would you 45 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:58,100 um oh she's back in strange for for 46 00:02:58,100 --> 00:03:02,840 a while now okay just no parents aren't liking that and uh 47 00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:07,980 I'm not sure if she's been to that school. I think it's been hard for her 48 00:03:07,980 --> 00:03:08,980 through it. 49 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,240 I'm not really sure why. 50 00:03:12,460 --> 00:03:16,940 I think we have a good life at home, I think. 51 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,920 But, yeah, it's just been different. 52 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,680 Okay. Well, Kenzie, do you know what your brother is talking about? He says 53 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,580 you've been a little strange lately. Do you agree with that? Do you disagree? 54 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,500 How do you feel about that word? 55 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,660 closed and a few months ago that 56 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:52,380 kind of changed a little bit and I guess 57 00:03:52,380 --> 00:03:57,740 I started seeing him differently. Okay. 58 00:04:00,620 --> 00:04:02,700 Seeing him differently how? 59 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:05,480 You say it changed, did something happen? 60 00:04:16,280 --> 00:04:17,280 Not yet. 61 00:04:17,339 --> 00:04:18,339 Never. 62 00:04:24,220 --> 00:04:28,760 You have to tell her the rest of that. 63 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,480 It's not important. 64 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,000 It's okay. You know, if Kenzie feels that it's important, you know, I'd love 65 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,000 hear about it. 66 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:39,390 I'm going to add to this. 67 00:04:39,450 --> 00:04:46,270 Dr. Farber said it's a safe place, and we've never talked about it, so maybe 68 00:04:46,270 --> 00:04:47,049 we should. 69 00:04:47,050 --> 00:04:48,050 All right. 70 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:49,790 Okay. 71 00:04:51,130 --> 00:04:58,030 So when I, I didn't knock, so I guess it 72 00:04:58,030 --> 00:04:59,150 was my fault. 73 00:04:59,370 --> 00:05:00,370 Uh -huh. 74 00:05:00,530 --> 00:05:05,330 And then I opened the door, and I saw him. 75 00:05:07,820 --> 00:05:14,140 pleasuring okay and I didn't I 76 00:05:14,140 --> 00:05:20,760 didn't look away right away and I 77 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:27,120 guess lately I've been seeing him differently kind 78 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:33,560 of going back to that moment when I saw him 79 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,700 doing that 80 00:05:37,390 --> 00:05:38,390 I think she was in there. 81 00:05:38,770 --> 00:05:41,750 But you remember this incident? 82 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:45,230 Yeah. Is that about how you remember it? 83 00:05:45,610 --> 00:05:49,650 Maybe she didn't knock, just kind of came in and maybe froze a little bit? 84 00:05:50,410 --> 00:05:51,930 I didn't notice it there at first. 85 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:53,230 Uh -huh. 86 00:05:54,510 --> 00:06:01,310 And by the time I saw her, she was... She 87 00:06:01,310 --> 00:06:04,950 had some of her clothes off. Uh -huh. 88 00:06:08,140 --> 00:06:13,220 Yeah, by that point I was right. I was actually coming. 89 00:06:13,780 --> 00:06:19,160 Climaxing? And so my last me scene was her naked. 90 00:06:19,460 --> 00:06:20,460 That's interesting. 91 00:06:20,620 --> 00:06:21,640 Yeah. Okay. 92 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:29,740 I mean, I guess I left this little part out. He 93 00:06:29,740 --> 00:06:32,100 didn't notice me right away. 94 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,860 I didn't look away right away. 95 00:06:39,340 --> 00:06:46,340 I guess I got kind of turned on from seeing him 96 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:52,020 do that. He didn't see me at first, so then I thought, 97 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:59,020 would he notice if I just acted on that? 98 00:07:00,340 --> 00:07:04,980 So I got undressed and... 99 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:14,340 Touching myself and watching him, it felt like it was only 100 00:07:14,340 --> 00:07:20,260 for, like, a couple of seconds, but it felt like so much longer. 101 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:26,860 By the time he noticed me, I, like, 102 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,480 was inside myself. 103 00:07:30,100 --> 00:07:31,100 Mm -hmm. 104 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Okay. 105 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,240 Well, that's, you know, that's sort of an event. 106 00:07:38,910 --> 00:07:40,970 Yeah, that's worth noticing. 107 00:07:41,990 --> 00:07:46,210 Why did you feel like it was irrelevant, Nathan? 108 00:07:46,530 --> 00:07:49,450 I just thought we were okay after that. 109 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:53,930 Right. Yeah, I didn't think it was a big deal. 110 00:07:55,050 --> 00:07:56,750 Just something that happened. 111 00:07:57,050 --> 00:07:58,050 Just something that happened. 112 00:07:59,370 --> 00:08:05,970 But since then, Kenzie, you've been feeling differently, and Nathan, you've 113 00:08:05,970 --> 00:08:08,500 been... I may have been avoiding her a lot more. 114 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Okay. I knew it. 115 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,920 Sorry. 116 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,100 All right. You didn't feel anything? 117 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:20,860 I know it's... Am I fucked up? No, no, no, no, honey, don't. 118 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:22,960 Not at all. 119 00:08:24,260 --> 00:08:29,880 You know... I kind of saw you as I came, so I may have felt something, but 120 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:35,000 it's not right where we're going, so I just kind of... 121 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,740 I put it really far down. 122 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:44,500 You know, modern nuclear families live together. 123 00:08:47,340 --> 00:08:50,120 And, you know, things like this happen. 124 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:55,280 It's not uncommon by any stretch of the imagination. 125 00:08:56,980 --> 00:09:03,260 And, you know, it doesn't have to be a negative experience. I know that a lot 126 00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:10,040 people, some people, not necessarily you two, can sort of feel shame or they can 127 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,160 feel anxious when something like this happens. 128 00:09:14,780 --> 00:09:17,560 But really, you can just kind of push through it. 129 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:25,200 And really, you know, you two are still living together. I'd like to kind of 130 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,920 help you work through this, what if it happens again? 131 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,440 You know, I'm assuming it's still kind of tight quarters. 132 00:09:30,860 --> 00:09:33,520 Are you two sharing a bathroom then, or? 133 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:35,770 Yeah. Okay. 134 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:37,470 All right. 135 00:09:37,550 --> 00:09:42,770 I just want us to be close how we used to be close. Like, he taught me how to 136 00:09:42,770 --> 00:09:43,770 ride a bike. 137 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:47,330 Like, I miss my big brother. 138 00:09:47,850 --> 00:09:53,750 And I feel kind of embarrassed that that happened. And I 139 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:57,770 shouldn't have let my 140 00:09:57,770 --> 00:10:03,030 sexual feelings. 141 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:10,680 take over what was actually right, which wouldn't have been to sit there and 142 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:12,500 watch you. 143 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,520 I'm sorry. 144 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:20,540 Something that's worth kind of talking about is maybe Kenzie, your... Did you 145 00:10:20,540 --> 00:10:23,180 want to add something, Nathan? I'm sorry if I cut you off. No, it's just I 146 00:10:23,180 --> 00:10:25,600 really love that moment so much. 147 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,740 I may have been feeling some stuff. 148 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:38,120 Mm -hmm. Because as I was coming, it was... I haven't seen that many naked 149 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,980 girls. And also, growing up with her kind of made it, for some reason, a 150 00:10:42,980 --> 00:10:44,020 harder. 151 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,200 It was... Okay. 152 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,040 That's interesting. 153 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,600 So, Kinsey, let's talk a little bit about your sexuality. 154 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:59,480 You know, I know that a lot of times the focus is on boys' sexualities and stuff 155 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,480 like that. 156 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:08,360 But I'm very interested and curious about that you decided to kind of keep 157 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:15,040 there. Have you been having any sort of 158 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,200 erotic dreams lately? 159 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Maybe? 160 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:25,860 The other night, I woke up and 161 00:11:25,860 --> 00:11:30,860 I felt like a wet spot. 162 00:11:32,140 --> 00:11:39,100 on my sheets, and I was just wearing panties, but I 163 00:11:39,100 --> 00:11:45,300 had soap through my panties, and I 164 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:52,100 guess I was just dreaming of catching 165 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:59,100 himself, and I thought, what would it be like 166 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:00,440 if he did that to me? 167 00:12:00,990 --> 00:12:06,610 You know, how good it would feel if he was 168 00:12:06,610 --> 00:12:10,410 joking himself inside of me. 169 00:12:11,590 --> 00:12:18,310 We come from a really, really modest household, and 170 00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:23,210 I used to dress pretty conservative. 171 00:12:25,350 --> 00:12:29,330 But ever since the event... 172 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,960 I find myself doing things. 173 00:12:36,700 --> 00:12:42,780 Can you be more, let's backtrack just a little tiny bit. 174 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:50,180 So had you had like a dream or were you fantasizing at night or what exactly 175 00:12:50,180 --> 00:12:54,980 happened with that when you woke up with your question? 176 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,220 I woke up suddenly. 177 00:13:00,110 --> 00:13:07,050 I saw that there was that wet spot there, and I just kind of 178 00:13:07,050 --> 00:13:13,830 went back into my thoughts, and all I thought about in that dream was him 179 00:13:13,830 --> 00:13:20,390 using me and... Using you? 180 00:13:21,230 --> 00:13:22,230 Yeah. 181 00:13:24,130 --> 00:13:26,670 Like, reusing me. 182 00:13:28,230 --> 00:13:29,230 Okay. 183 00:13:30,079 --> 00:13:31,079 Like, 184 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:38,740 were you doing something, and he was... It's warmer here. 185 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:47,500 Yeah, like, you know, we have chores around the house, and it was just a 186 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:54,300 situation where, you know, I'd be loading up the dishwasher, and he'd be 187 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:55,680 loading me up the cock. 188 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Oh, okay. 189 00:14:00,910 --> 00:14:01,910 Just like that. 190 00:14:02,990 --> 00:14:09,810 Like, he'd be watching TV, and I would just come along and start sucking him 191 00:14:09,810 --> 00:14:16,670 off, or I just would, like, tease him, like, when I walked up the stairs, 192 00:14:16,690 --> 00:14:20,930 and I knew he was behind me, and then he would just grab me by the back of my 193 00:14:20,930 --> 00:14:24,130 neck and just start pounding my pussy. 194 00:14:25,070 --> 00:14:28,910 Am I saying too much? No, no, it's okay. 195 00:14:30,110 --> 00:14:34,630 Nathan, did you know about this part of it? 196 00:14:34,910 --> 00:14:37,930 I didn't know the extent of it. 197 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:45,130 Okay. I mean, I saw her in the bathroom, and I know she's been wearing smaller 198 00:14:45,130 --> 00:14:50,730 outfits. I kind of was trying to avoid her a lot more. 199 00:14:51,610 --> 00:14:57,730 I was trying to look as much as I could because, yeah, that was a 200 00:14:57,730 --> 00:14:58,730 lot. 201 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:05,280 Okay. Well, now that you know about it, that it's more out in the open, how does 202 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,280 it make you feel? 203 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,840 Um, I don't know if I want to say. 204 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,180 Okay. You know, Kenzie has been very forthcoming and shared quite a few 205 00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:19,240 and I am a professional. 206 00:15:21,260 --> 00:15:22,260 Um, 207 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,360 I, I, I. 208 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:26,620 Let it out. 209 00:15:27,380 --> 00:15:28,380 It's okay. 210 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,320 I like seeing her little outfits. 211 00:15:33,780 --> 00:15:40,440 And if I said it wasn't on my mind constantly, I mean, just 212 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,580 like seeing her naked right there and then just seeing her in those little 213 00:15:44,580 --> 00:15:47,000 skirts and just watching her bend over. 214 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,920 And apparently she was just not wearing panties anymore. She just stopped that. 215 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:58,520 Oh. And it looks just so good. 216 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:07,380 And so I have to do that over and over and over again, trying to hold my shit 217 00:16:07,380 --> 00:16:08,380 together for a little bit longer. 218 00:16:09,020 --> 00:16:10,020 Maintain the calm. 219 00:16:10,140 --> 00:16:11,140 Yeah. 220 00:16:11,420 --> 00:16:17,480 Well, you know, what I'm seeing and what I'm hearing is that you are two 221 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:24,260 siblings who really just care about each 222 00:16:24,260 --> 00:16:25,260 other, you know? 223 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,820 There's probably a lot of hormones going on in a very small space. 224 00:16:32,140 --> 00:16:35,920 And, you know, I think that part of the reason that you were trying to 225 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:42,920 do what you're trying to do is because you do care about each other 226 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:43,920 very deeply. 227 00:16:44,220 --> 00:16:48,420 You know, it seems like it's been difficult for Nathan, that maybe there's 228 00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:55,140 shame there, some embarrassment over something that you haven't dealt with 229 00:16:55,140 --> 00:16:57,740 before, which, let me assure you, is actually... 230 00:16:58,090 --> 00:16:59,090 very common. 231 00:16:59,550 --> 00:17:01,930 And in that it's common, it's pretty normal. 232 00:17:03,050 --> 00:17:08,490 And Kenzie, I feel like we've opened a floodgate with you. I feel so vulnerable 233 00:17:08,490 --> 00:17:09,490 right now. 234 00:17:11,069 --> 00:17:12,069 That's okay. 235 00:17:12,450 --> 00:17:17,050 And I do want to reiterate that this is a safe space that you two are in right 236 00:17:17,050 --> 00:17:20,869 now. Nothing goes past that door. 237 00:17:22,099 --> 00:17:26,319 It's all closed off. And, you know, this is sort of a situation where you two 238 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:31,020 can explore things and not have to feel so caged up, you know, and not have to 239 00:17:31,020 --> 00:17:36,520 be worried about, what does it mean that I've noticed that my sister isn't 240 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,520 wearing any panties? You know, it just, all it means is that she's not wearing 241 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,740 panties. All it means that you've noticed that your sister isn't wearing 242 00:17:43,740 --> 00:17:47,040 is that she doesn't like them. And that's totally fine, too. 243 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,600 You can dress however you like. 244 00:17:50,429 --> 00:17:54,510 And if that has an effect on Nathan, that's okay. 245 00:17:55,490 --> 00:17:56,490 Totally fine. 246 00:17:57,630 --> 00:18:02,270 So what I would like to do with both of you is kind of like try to maybe work 247 00:18:02,270 --> 00:18:07,250 past some of the guilt and the shame so that you can have a more relationship. 248 00:18:07,970 --> 00:18:11,630 Not a less relationship where we're always trying to like close things off 249 00:18:11,630 --> 00:18:13,970 be at odds or, you know, maybe we're... 250 00:18:14,410 --> 00:18:17,750 Acting out a little bit because we don't know another way to get the attention 251 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:19,930 that we want because we can't just ask for it. 252 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:27,410 Maybe it's okay if we renegotiate this relationship for now and let it change 253 00:18:27,410 --> 00:18:30,870 up a little bit. How does that sound to both of you? 254 00:18:31,070 --> 00:18:32,670 Like it's worth a shot? Yeah. 255 00:18:32,890 --> 00:18:33,890 Yeah? 256 00:18:40,650 --> 00:18:43,310 Be able to climb in your bed when I have a bad dream. 257 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:48,290 Like, I want to be able to tell you everything. 258 00:18:48,830 --> 00:18:54,950 Like, if I hooked up with a guy and I, like, didn't like something or I liked 259 00:18:54,950 --> 00:19:01,290 something, I want to be able to have that closeness and that sharing thing 260 00:19:01,290 --> 00:19:02,710 again. Mm -hmm. 261 00:19:05,630 --> 00:19:06,630 Tell me, too. 262 00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:09,210 I feel like we're in a safe place. 263 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:11,960 You want to try? 264 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Yeah. 265 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,280 Okay, ready to take the next step? 266 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,780 Let's take that step together. 267 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:20,360 Does that sound okay? 268 00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:21,620 Yeah. 269 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:27,580 So, Kenzie, I would like to keep talking to you. I feel like 270 00:19:27,580 --> 00:19:33,600 there's a lot that's been unsaid. Maybe a lot is being acted, but not a lot is 271 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,600 being spoken. 272 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:42,230 And Nathan, I... think that it might benefit you a little bit if while I'm 273 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:46,770 talking to your sister, if you just sort of let yourself explore. 274 00:19:48,510 --> 00:19:55,450 For example, if you feel like touching her, whether it's just stroking 275 00:19:55,450 --> 00:20:02,310 her hair or her breath or her vulva, that you kind of allow yourself 276 00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:06,070 to do that without feeling guilty just until the end of the session. 277 00:20:06,570 --> 00:20:08,410 Just for a very brief period of time. 278 00:20:10,350 --> 00:20:11,710 You just let yourself go. 279 00:20:13,230 --> 00:20:17,150 Yeah. And kind of, you know, you'll know what you feel. You know, if you just 280 00:20:17,150 --> 00:20:21,350 stop with this, like, real, like, I feel like it's a little bit of a facade. 281 00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:24,030 A little bit of a barrier here. 282 00:20:24,910 --> 00:20:27,910 And, you know, this is your sister. You don't have to have that barrier with 283 00:20:27,910 --> 00:20:30,650 her. You don't have to protect yourself from her. You don't have to. 284 00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:36,230 deny yourself in her presence. You know, she's family. She wants you to be 285 00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:39,070 happy. And it sounds like she enjoys it too. 286 00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:41,070 You know? 287 00:20:41,670 --> 00:20:45,890 So, Kenzie, do you have consent to letting Nathan explore a little bit? 288 00:20:47,090 --> 00:20:52,090 I mean, anything to get back to where we were. 289 00:20:53,550 --> 00:20:54,550 Okay. 290 00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:57,650 So, Nathan, I'm just going to talk to Kenzie. 291 00:20:58,570 --> 00:21:00,550 And anything that you feel like doing, 292 00:21:01,420 --> 00:21:02,420 Don't worry about it. 293 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:08,840 Pretend that I'm not here and I want you to assume that she's okay with whatever 294 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,840 you want to try to do. 295 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,060 You can stop them if you want to, but I want you to assume that everything is 296 00:21:15,060 --> 00:21:16,060 okay. 297 00:21:16,460 --> 00:21:19,820 It'll be kind of like a game of red light, green light, only you don't have 298 00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:20,820 say green light. 299 00:21:32,889 --> 00:21:35,350 Oh, yeah, don't worry about the cameras. 300 00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:41,830 Again, it's just note -taking. It's all just going right into a file on my 301 00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:43,630 computer. No one's going to see it. 302 00:21:47,090 --> 00:21:49,190 Okay, is it standard for actors? 303 00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:53,790 Yeah, I mean, it's standard for me, certainly. My little wrist gets so 304 00:21:53,910 --> 00:21:54,910 you know? 305 00:21:59,980 --> 00:22:01,700 Seriously, I can do anything I want. 306 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,920 I am saying, and Kenzie is saying, that you can do anything that you want. 307 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,820 Okay? Okay. 308 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,200 All right? 309 00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:11,880 I want you to just let go. 310 00:22:12,140 --> 00:22:14,380 Just, can you take a deep breath? Good boy. 311 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:20,900 Just, you know, I just want you to forget about those vital rules, 312 00:22:20,980 --> 00:22:26,640 and I want you to just focus on your enjoyment, your mental health, 313 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:29,080 your indulgence, okay? 314 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,800 And that's okay. That's a good thing. 315 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:31,979 All right. 316 00:22:31,980 --> 00:22:33,860 Okay. All right. 317 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Break. 318 00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:44,200 So, Kenzie, you said you've been dressing a little bit more provocatively 319 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,780 around the house. 320 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:52,400 Is that specifically for your brother's fulfillment, or where is it going? 321 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,140 I wanted to see if I could get him that feeling. 322 00:23:05,460 --> 00:23:06,460 Okay. 323 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,740 So it was a positive experience for you overall? 324 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,680 Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. Yeah. 325 00:23:16,140 --> 00:23:20,360 Could you put into words specifically what you enjoyed about it? 326 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,020 Or did it feel empowering? 327 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:27,340 Was it just hot? 328 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:29,100 Was it... 329 00:23:29,850 --> 00:23:30,850 It's thrilling. 330 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:38,750 It's kind of a mix of everything. I mean, the fact that we're so close and 331 00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:43,350 I can really feel like I can open up to him. 332 00:23:44,330 --> 00:23:50,210 The fact that he's my brother, you know, it's not 333 00:23:50,210 --> 00:23:52,010 typical. 334 00:23:53,330 --> 00:23:57,130 Well, you know, it is more common than you would think. I mean, especially for 335 00:23:57,130 --> 00:23:59,110 me. Working in family therapy. 336 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:05,750 You know, it's the kind of thing that brings people in, but it's not really 337 00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:12,330 kind of thing that has to be corrected or, you know, dealt with in some way. 338 00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:19,830 Mostly what it is is just alleviating those feelings of guilt so that people 339 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:22,590 get rid of that baggage. Because I don't want you to have a bunch of baggage. 340 00:24:22,830 --> 00:24:26,730 I don't want you to internalize this and have it fester. 341 00:24:27,630 --> 00:24:31,130 becomes something else like that, you know? You want to get it out there. 342 00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:36,510 But, you know, tell me what else has been going on with you. Are you still in 343 00:24:36,510 --> 00:24:38,030 school? Like, are you doing well? 344 00:24:38,590 --> 00:24:40,550 How are your other social relationships? 345 00:24:42,170 --> 00:24:43,590 Everything's going pretty good. 346 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:48,970 I just made first string in soccer. 347 00:24:49,390 --> 00:24:50,450 Oh, congratulations. 348 00:24:52,270 --> 00:24:55,430 So I definitely am hoping to get 349 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,900 You know, goals and everything. 350 00:25:01,260 --> 00:25:02,260 Score, right? 351 00:25:02,540 --> 00:25:04,680 Yeah, I made honor roll. 352 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,820 Oh, congratulations again. That's a big achievement. 353 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:11,460 It is, but I was aiming for high honor roll, you know? 354 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,800 Like, I guess I'm just, like, an overachiever. I mean, that's still 355 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,240 be very, very proud of, you know? 356 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,860 I mean, I never made honor roll. 357 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,120 Really? But you're a doctor. 358 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,440 I am, you know? 359 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,640 I wasn't really super focused until I got older and could study what I wanted 360 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,280 to, you know. 361 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,840 But, yeah, but that's wonderful. 362 00:25:33,380 --> 00:25:34,339 That's wonderful. 363 00:25:34,340 --> 00:25:38,600 I mean, you can do your homework, show that focus, you know, just be really 364 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,600 driven. 365 00:25:40,020 --> 00:25:45,460 I mean, one of the issues was my brother used to help me with my homework, and 366 00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:50,500 since he's been avoiding me, I almost got a D. 367 00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,100 Oh, okay. 368 00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:53,119 All right. 369 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,120 So. 370 00:25:54,410 --> 00:25:57,670 Maybe there have been some impacts on grace and things. 371 00:25:58,010 --> 00:26:04,850 Yeah. I mean, I guess I've just, my mind's been 372 00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:05,850 other places. 373 00:26:06,090 --> 00:26:12,030 I've been focusing all my energy on trying to arouse them. 374 00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:14,830 Yeah. Instead of working on myself. 375 00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:21,270 And I think this is just the first time I've really, like, said it out loud. 376 00:26:21,550 --> 00:26:23,370 Because I've always been alone. 377 00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:31,430 very political situation I've never told anyone about it so I think now 378 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:36,110 that I'm getting everything out in the open I think that's like really helped 379 00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:41,830 you know like you know I know that a lot of times especially parents 380 00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:47,470 tend to think that you know sexual activity is going to be distracting in 381 00:26:47,470 --> 00:26:52,530 way but really it's just it can focus you it just it's a relief you know it's 382 00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:54,630 Keeps you from being constantly distracted. 383 00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:58,910 And I really do think that if you and your brother spend more, like, quality 384 00:26:58,910 --> 00:27:02,690 time together, it's going to have a very positive impact. 385 00:27:04,670 --> 00:27:08,510 Well, do you think it'll bring us closer if we keep coming to these sessions? 386 00:27:10,010 --> 00:27:13,830 I think it's worth trying. What I'd like to do is just give you two some sort 387 00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:16,010 of, like, homework assignments. 388 00:27:16,530 --> 00:27:17,530 You know what I mean? 389 00:27:17,690 --> 00:27:21,530 Yeah. So, like, things that you can do to sort of, like, stay mentally healthy. 390 00:27:22,620 --> 00:27:25,280 Throughout the week, it'll help you to connect. 391 00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:29,400 And then we can kind of check in here and see how that's all going. 392 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,100 And so maybe, you know, someday it isn't really necessary anymore. Or if you 393 00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:38,600 just want to talk to me about yourself or whatever you want to do. I'm still 394 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,180 getting to know you as well. 395 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:47,920 So what things could we do at home to really help us get through 396 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,920 this? 397 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,320 I do want to talk. 398 00:27:50,780 --> 00:27:54,600 to your brother some more, but generally in a situation like this, because 399 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,980 again, it isn't uncommon at all. 400 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:04,140 A lot of times what we'll do is we'll sort of designate a period of time where 401 00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:09,600 these behaviors can just kind of like take place unchecked, you know? So 402 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,440 whatever we want to do within this portal. 403 00:28:12,780 --> 00:28:16,180 And then beyond that, we don't have to be distracted or concerned about 404 00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:17,180 anything. 405 00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:20,720 And so I think that's what I want to try with you two. First of all, in 406 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,940 sessions, you two can sort of explore some more. 407 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,700 And then we'll sort of like take that more and more into the real world. So 408 00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:34,320 maybe one week, he is allowed to touch you under your clothes. 409 00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:39,160 Or maybe we make a rule that you're allowed to go into his bed whenever you 410 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,000 to. Something like that. And just take it one step at a time. 411 00:28:43,690 --> 00:28:47,190 until you can feel more comfortable doing these things on your own. 412 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:49,470 Does that kind of make sense? 413 00:28:50,370 --> 00:28:51,750 No, it totally does. 414 00:28:52,210 --> 00:28:56,870 It's like break it up into chunks so it's manageable until it becomes a 415 00:28:56,970 --> 00:28:57,990 until it becomes a lifestyle. 416 00:28:59,490 --> 00:29:00,490 Okay. 417 00:29:01,350 --> 00:29:08,050 So, you know, Kenzie, is this isolated to your relationship with your 418 00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:11,790 brother, stepbrother, or is it... 419 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,240 Does it extend to other people that you know? 420 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:21,140 I mean, I've always been really promiscuous. 421 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,440 Okay. 422 00:29:24,420 --> 00:29:30,700 I mean, I can find sexuality in just about anything or anyone. 423 00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:34,740 Men, women, my brother. 424 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,040 Okay. 425 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,340 I guess I'm just really... 426 00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:44,120 turned on all the time. 427 00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:50,080 Is that normal for someone my age? You know, all that matters is whether or not 428 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,160 it's normal for you. 429 00:29:51,460 --> 00:29:55,420 You know, you'll be in the world and a lot of times people will throw around 430 00:29:55,420 --> 00:30:00,000 diagnoses as insults, but really it's just like a vocabulary word for, you 431 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,480 describing you. It's like saying that you're bubbly or that you're, you know, 432 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,780 maybe a little melancholy. 433 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,260 You like that? 434 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:09,220 Yeah. Well, fine. 435 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,340 Have you, uh, experimented at all with goodness before, or? 436 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:20,780 I mean, when I was younger, me and one of my best friends, we played this 437 00:30:20,780 --> 00:30:22,580 game in our room called college. 438 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:29,360 Oh, okay. And it, um, we would, like, practice for, 439 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:36,060 you know, for when we got older and started doing things. 440 00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:38,640 Um, can you be specific? Me. 441 00:30:39,420 --> 00:30:43,280 I know it can be a little awkward sometimes if you only know the street 442 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,280 for these things. 443 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,560 But, you know, you can totally tell me. I know all the lingo that you give me. 444 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:57,100 Well, we had this game in college, and her mom would think that 445 00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:04,040 we were downstairs in her room watching a movie, but really we were 446 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,040 experimenting. 447 00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:13,060 I remember the first time we did it, we were watching a vampire movie, and 448 00:31:13,060 --> 00:31:19,520 she started kissing my neck, and 449 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:26,520 we started letting our hands on her, and before I knew it, 450 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:33,460 it was a regular thing where we'd scissor each other and grind 451 00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:35,120 on top of one another. 452 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,160 Then her mom walked in one day, and that was the end of that. 453 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,820 Yeah, she said I was a bad influence. I don't know why, though. Like, I'm a good 454 00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:50,500 person. You know, it can be very shocking for a parent to see someone 455 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,220 you know, if you don't think of them as having a sexuality. 456 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,940 But, you know, it's totally fine, and what's important is that you know you 457 00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:02,040 didn't do anything wrong, and you're not going to let it change you, you know? 458 00:32:02,860 --> 00:32:04,360 Just because one person... 459 00:32:04,940 --> 00:32:06,880 Maybe she doesn't want to be too conscious about sexuality. 460 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,740 It doesn't mean anything about you. 461 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Okay. 462 00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:12,740 Yeah. I think she's just old school. 463 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,920 She doesn't get it. 464 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:21,200 And that's her journey, you know. I still fantasize about that, too. 465 00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:23,220 About your friends? 466 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Yeah. 467 00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:27,740 Are you two still in contact or not so much? 468 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:31,400 Not so much. Not so much. Okay. 469 00:32:32,420 --> 00:32:33,420 Bye. 470 00:32:34,459 --> 00:32:36,700 Of course. That's what we're here for. 471 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,980 Therapy doesn't work if you're not open. 472 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,220 I was thinking, would it be like to have both of them at the same time? 473 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,680 That could be interesting. 474 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,980 I've never done it before. I've seen it in movies. 475 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,520 What was your friend's name? 476 00:33:17,220 --> 00:33:18,540 Alexa. Alexa? 477 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,080 Okay. That's a beautiful name. 478 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,360 How about, do you want to maybe do some role -playing, and I could kind of, 479 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,720 like, play that role for you of Alexa? 480 00:33:29,020 --> 00:33:32,060 Do you think that would help? I think it's a bit boring. 481 00:33:32,380 --> 00:33:33,680 I do think it might help. 482 00:33:34,010 --> 00:33:38,710 A lot of therapy is still kind of trial and error, but I really do think that it 483 00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:43,550 might benefit you to kind of live these things out, see that it's not that big 484 00:33:43,550 --> 00:33:47,710 of a deal, enjoy yourself, and not have to worry about someone's mom walking in. 485 00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:51,030 You're a miracle worker, Dr. 486 00:33:51,370 --> 00:33:53,190 Barber. Thank you. 487 00:33:53,410 --> 00:33:55,090 I really appreciate it. 488 00:34:00,910 --> 00:34:04,880 So with that, How long ago did that happen, like a few weeks ago, months? 489 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,179 Oh, um, this was a few years ago. 490 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,780 Okay, so it's been a little while. 491 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:12,880 I've had this fantasy in my head. 492 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:20,580 Now that I kind of, you know, know what everything is, I've kind of just 493 00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:23,340 been reliving that in my dreams. 494 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,399 Mm -hmm. 495 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,560 The one with the fantasies about my brother. 496 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,960 Right. 497 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,659 Thinking about what it'd be like to share his talk with her and 498 00:34:36,659 --> 00:34:39,980 hate him that day. 499 00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:42,500 You know? 500 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:44,739 I feel so embarrassed. 501 00:34:47,219 --> 00:34:49,440 Well, you really don't have to feel embarrassed. 502 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:55,320 No. And I think it's like anything else. You just practice and take the time to 503 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,980 put in the work to not feel embarrassed. 504 00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:58,240 I really... 505 00:34:58,710 --> 00:35:00,490 I really do think it's going to benefit you. 506 00:35:01,110 --> 00:35:02,110 Okay. 507 00:35:02,530 --> 00:35:06,550 It's just practice. That's all it is. You know, we'll start off with you doing 508 00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:08,410 it every week. 509 00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:10,390 Pretty soon it will be every day. 510 00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:14,110 And eventually it will just kind of be how you are. It will just kind of be how 511 00:35:14,110 --> 00:35:15,089 your life is. 512 00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:16,090 You understand? 513 00:35:17,390 --> 00:35:18,390 Yes. Yes, doctor. 514 00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:19,910 Yes. 515 00:35:49,260 --> 00:35:51,220 Do you help all your patients like this? 516 00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:55,880 Well, you know, if someone needs this sort of therapy, I'm certainly open to 517 00:35:56,180 --> 00:36:02,180 I do a few different types of behavioral therapies. 518 00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:07,040 I would actually say that this is one of the more common ones. 519 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,960 Really? Yeah, I know. 520 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,200 So many problems are sort of like sexual in nature. 521 00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:18,790 You can just kind of like work through that. And a lot of the problem isn't 522 00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:19,629 really sex. 523 00:36:19,630 --> 00:36:21,790 It's just people's attitudes towards them. 524 00:36:23,170 --> 00:36:26,850 And if you can kind of fix that, you can fix someone's attitude towards their 525 00:36:26,850 --> 00:36:31,390 own sexuality, it almost always comes back into a much higher quality of life. 526 00:36:31,770 --> 00:36:32,890 Can you fix that stuff? 527 00:36:33,410 --> 00:36:36,450 You can certainly try to help them fix yourselves. 528 00:36:38,610 --> 00:36:40,470 I don't like to try anything. 529 00:36:40,690 --> 00:36:41,448 Right, bro? 530 00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:45,780 I can see that you are... Still not wearing the panties. 531 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,660 I find panties really... Constricting? 532 00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:51,960 Yeah. I can see that. 533 00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:58,980 Yeah, I feel like it's more natural just to have, you know, the 534 00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:01,800 breeze come out under there, under your skirt. 535 00:37:02,380 --> 00:37:05,080 And it's fun to tease the boys at school. 536 00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:38,640 Oh, gosh, I hope I don't come pop out in there. 537 00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:42,980 I was thinking maybe I want to see what her mouth feels like. Oh. 538 00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:47,840 Well. Because you're already down there. I figured if you, you know. Oh, you 539 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,660 want to see what your sister's mouth feels like? Yeah. Yeah? Well, what's a 540 00:37:50,660 --> 00:37:52,740 healthy way of asking her about that then? 541 00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:54,780 Do you want me to suck on my cock? 542 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,240 Is that the next step of the process? 543 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,680 Well, it depends on whether or not you do want to suck on your cock. 544 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,400 Would you say that that's a yes or is that a no or a maybe? 545 00:38:06,980 --> 00:38:09,200 I really wanted to throw one thing. 546 00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:11,200 So a yes? 547 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:16,920 Yes. That sounds like a yes. And look at that, like magic, there it is. 548 00:38:47,570 --> 00:38:49,010 Do you 549 00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:57,730 feel 550 00:38:57,730 --> 00:39:05,130 about 551 00:39:05,130 --> 00:39:06,890 trying something like this at home? 552 00:39:09,089 --> 00:39:13,590 timeframe. I could, I could, I could do that. You could make that work. 553 00:39:13,870 --> 00:39:14,709 I could. 554 00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:19,950 I feel like a lot of times it's being given permission to do the things that 555 00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:20,950 want to do anyway. 556 00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:23,210 That can be very helpful. 557 00:39:25,370 --> 00:39:26,370 Oh my goodness. 558 00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:42,620 Take that couch. 559 00:39:43,260 --> 00:39:44,260 Oh, my God. 560 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,120 Mackenzie, how do you feel about us getting you undressed? 561 00:39:54,540 --> 00:39:58,300 Are you feeling okay? Do you want to keep your top on a little bit? 562 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,080 It's okay if you want to keep it on so you can kind of, you know. 563 00:40:02,620 --> 00:40:04,260 Yeah, just start out slow. 564 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,900 Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that, and I'm very proud of you for saying 565 00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:08,900 that. Thank you. 566 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,300 This looks like I play college now. 567 00:45:40,330 --> 00:45:42,290 Thank you. 568 00:46:11,549 --> 00:46:12,950 Okay. 569 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,600 I feel like somebody should start a dream journal. 570 00:51:18,570 --> 00:51:20,410 Mom, would you look me in the eyes while you do it? 571 00:51:25,090 --> 00:51:26,910 I'm going to put your shoulders down. 572 00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:30,890 You're really getting me to open up, doctor. 573 00:51:34,210 --> 00:51:35,290 Oh, my. 574 00:51:36,130 --> 00:51:37,130 Oh, my. 575 00:51:38,810 --> 00:51:40,630 That's a hard G -spot. Jesus Christ. 576 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,240 You are very deep. You are very fucking tight. 577 00:54:59,660 --> 00:55:00,800 Is anyone watching you get off? 578 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,080 Creamy, thick, hot load. 579 00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:04,240 Anywhere you want. 580 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,220 I can do anything. 581 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,160 I can do anything. 582 00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:16,220 I need a freeze. 583 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,340 Do whatever you want. 584 00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:23,100 Does that feel good when she sucks your cock? 585 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,220 How do you want me, bro? 586 00:56:58,950 --> 00:57:00,750 Get it off. Get it off. 587 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,560 This one's the weak link, bro. I'll do it every day if you want. 588 00:57:13,860 --> 00:57:16,120 Let's return that cute old sweater as much as we can. 589 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,300 Oh, my God. 590 00:57:25,780 --> 00:57:28,740 My brother's hot, thick load. 591 00:57:56,589 --> 00:57:57,390 oh wow 592 00:57:57,390 --> 00:58:10,310 don't 593 00:58:10,310 --> 00:58:12,330 pass out i'm not that kind of doctor 594 00:58:38,930 --> 00:58:41,990 You both made so much progress. 595 00:58:42,770 --> 00:58:44,590 Are you feeling good about what you did here? 596 00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:46,250 Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. 597 00:58:49,660 --> 00:58:56,460 Well, I am very proud of both of you, you know, and I think that this week 598 00:58:56,460 --> 00:59:01,360 we should pick a day where you guys can do this. Maybe have a whole day in the 599 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,360 afternoon. 600 00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:03,700 What do you think? 601 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,140 What's a good day for both of you? A Tuesday maybe? 602 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:09,280 Any day is good for me at this point. Any day is good for you. 603 00:59:10,180 --> 00:59:11,180 What's your preference? 604 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,960 Tuesday would be nice. Tuesday would be nice. Okay, so let's say Tuesday is free 605 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:16,960 expression day. 606 00:59:17,770 --> 00:59:20,350 in the, you know, Bronson household. 607 00:59:21,710 --> 00:59:23,750 Does that sound good? 608 00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:24,868 Sounds great. 609 00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:26,190 Okay, so I have a promise from you. 610 00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:27,750 Promise. I have a promise from you. 611 00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:29,490 Okay. Okay, good. 612 00:59:30,850 --> 00:59:34,710 Well, gosh, there is a restroom just down the hall to the right. 613 00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:38,450 If you two would like to get a little cleaned up. Kenzie, I think you have a 614 00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:39,710 little something. 615 00:59:41,010 --> 00:59:42,730 Well, you'll see it. You'll see it. 616 00:59:42,990 --> 00:59:44,110 I'm going to go home with it. 617 00:59:45,390 --> 00:59:46,390 Okay. 618 00:59:48,110 --> 00:59:50,110 I'm proud of you for saying so. 619 00:59:51,870 --> 00:59:56,870 And I'm trusting that you'll be supportive in explaining anything to 620 00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:57,870 might have any questions. 621 00:59:58,310 --> 00:59:59,310 Yeah. All right. 622 00:59:59,950 --> 01:00:02,010 Thank you so much, Doctor. 623 01:00:02,250 --> 01:00:07,490 Of course. You're a miracle worker. Thank you very much. If you guys are 624 01:00:07,490 --> 01:00:11,230 to Michigan next week, you can make an appointment with Donna on the way out. 625 01:00:11,370 --> 01:00:12,370 Donna? 626 01:00:13,330 --> 01:00:14,370 Thank you, Doctor. 627 01:00:17,070 --> 01:00:18,070 That's the best I've ever heard. 628 01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:24,050 You ready, bro? Yeah, let's go. Yeah, you guys can just, like, grab your socks 629 01:00:24,050 --> 01:00:28,050 and, uh... Will you help me with my homework tonight? Yes, done. I have a 630 01:00:28,050 --> 01:00:29,050 task to get to study today. 631 01:00:30,550 --> 01:00:31,710 Let's go get some data ready. 632 01:00:32,450 --> 01:00:33,450 Yeah. 633 01:00:33,610 --> 01:00:34,770 Get that black light. 634 01:00:37,230 --> 01:00:38,710 Mom? You're ready to go. 635 01:00:39,250 --> 01:00:40,270 Okay, I'm getting up. 636 01:00:40,550 --> 01:00:43,390 I'm going to get lovely to meet you. Lovely to meet you, too. 637 01:00:43,630 --> 01:00:46,130 Lovely to meet you. 638 01:00:47,050 --> 01:00:48,050 Thank you, doctor. 639 01:00:48,210 --> 01:00:55,070 So proud of both of you. 640 01:00:55,290 --> 01:00:56,470 Thank you, doctor. 641 01:00:57,650 --> 01:00:58,650 Oh, my goodness.